tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8955681.post3917647801541283723..comments2024-02-29T00:32:34.057-06:00Comments on Havolim: Vayikra 1:2. Adam ki yakriv mikem korban. Areivus- The Nation as an Organism.Eliezer Eisenberghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16036989084122930226noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8955681.post-4399447326585531812010-03-15T16:15:37.316-05:002010-03-15T16:15:37.316-05:00That is exactly what I meant. The Siach Yitzchak&...That is exactly what I meant. The Siach Yitzchak's pshat cannot be correct, because according to his reasoning, once the other person cannot do the mitzva by himself, and so you have arvus on the mitzva, then you ought to be able to make the bracha even if the other person is a baki, because the arvus on the mitzva makes you a bar chiyva, so it's not a bracha le'vatala.Eliezer Eisenberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16036989084122930226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8955681.post-4673693125367766142010-03-15T16:01:19.588-05:002010-03-15T16:01:19.588-05:00If I understan correctly your point 1, the Bach in...If I understan correctly your point 1, the Bach in O"C 585 understands the Bahag differently to say that even when Reuvan is Motzi in the mitzvah, e.g. blows Shofar for Shimon, he cannot make the Bracha for Shimon unless the latter is Eino Baki.<br /><br />Yet, I also think Arvus is not the issue here, as it is accepted that even according to the Bahag Yatza Motzi in Shofar itself. The whole issue is just the Bracha, where Bahag (and other Geonim) hold it's like Tefila and Birkat-Hamazon.Elihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12793717193734899866noreply@blogger.com