tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8955681.post5431603872713906882..comments2024-03-20T18:38:31.327-05:00Comments on Havolim: Purim 5773/2013. Matanos L'Evyonim, -wiches, Selling Olam Haba, and IpecacEliezer Eisenberghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16036989084122930226noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8955681.post-29026624731283956092013-02-26T19:07:34.141-06:002013-02-26T19:07:34.141-06:00I apologize for those letters, but without them I ...I apologize for those letters, but without them I was getting endless spam comments, some in Chinese, usually recommending various lifestyle drugs. If any of you would like, I would be happy to give you my password to the dashboard, which would eliminate the captcha nonsense for you.Eliezer Eisenberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16036989084122930226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8955681.post-91760015054589048152013-02-26T18:51:48.851-06:002013-02-26T18:51:48.851-06:00The issue appears to be not significant practicall...The issue appears to be not significant practically, since you can give a few dollars for matanos l'evyonim, then much more from ma'os ma'aser as tzdoko which just so happens to be mesamayach evyonim on Purim.<br /><br />Had to withhold commenting until I could read the words in the captcha straight.great Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15728976902210831137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8955681.post-60202867428506863602013-02-25T17:14:41.844-06:002013-02-25T17:14:41.844-06:00Thanks, it's all in the post.Thanks, it's all in the post.Eliezer Eisenberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16036989084122930226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8955681.post-23124315852483093472013-02-25T13:30:39.710-06:002013-02-25T13:30:39.710-06:00The issue of whether MlE is a specific kind of Tze...The issue of whether MlE is a specific kind of Tzedaka or something else was discussed extensively by many contemporaries. Nafka Mina, e.g. is עני הפטור מן הצדקה, האם חייב במל"א (see Bach and Taz OC 694). See also Ritva Megila 7b "שאיןנתינה זו מדין צדקה גרידתא אלא מדין שמחה"<br /><br />However, הררי קדם brings from Reb Chayim like you, that it's chiyuv Tzedaka on Purim.Elihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12793717193734899866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8955681.post-12079688271663524472013-02-25T12:25:35.579-06:002013-02-25T12:25:35.579-06:00I just found a Chasam Sofer that lechora holds lik...I just found a Chasam Sofer that lechora holds like me, at least to the extent that since to me it's pashut not like the Maharil, I can do not like the Maharil. I'm putting it into the post.Eliezer Eisenberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16036989084122930226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8955681.post-86811385186969850722013-02-25T12:15:14.040-06:002013-02-25T12:15:14.040-06:00Good explanation, that it's meshubad already. ...Good explanation, that it's meshubad already. But my problem is that it seems to me that the mitzva of MLE is just tzedaka with extra dinim, tzedaka in a different malbush, that you should give davka on Purim. But to say that it goes outside the cheshbon of Maaser ksafim, that, to me, was difficult to understand.Eliezer Eisenberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16036989084122930226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8955681.post-16407981575285293862013-02-25T10:14:22.969-06:002013-02-25T10:14:22.969-06:00The chiyuv of Ma'aser Sheini is only to bring ...The chiyuv of Ma'aser Sheini is only to bring the Korban, no chiyuv to eat the meat. One can distribute it to whoever he wishes. Similarly, no specific Kohen has a chiyuv to eat Asham etc. In addition, Shalmey Simcha are only a chiyuv to eat and not to bring a Korban as such. These two, *together*, are the reason there is no issue of Davar Sh'bechova, as the two Chovos do not coincide.<br /><br />On the other hand, if you borrow from someone 100$ and then another 100$, you can't use the same 100$ bill for paying the two debts, even though the Tachlis is that he should get the money and not maase nessina. The point is that this Tachlis should be achieved twice. Similarly, in both Tzedaka money and Ml"E the purpose is to make sure that the evyonim get the money, but you can't use the same money and count it twice. (If you wish, the money of ma'aser is already Meshu'abad to Aniyim, and its not really yours, so you can't use it for Ml"E. This latter nusach is similar to what the Maharil himself says http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=1145&st=&pgnum=39 )Elihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12793717193734899866noreply@blogger.com